Men Who Hate Women : Dawkins Edition

Here’s an interesting post from Scott Alexander on the epic fail of the New Atheists.  As is woefully common with the “rationalist community” he only gets a small part of the elephant right.  Mainly, the New Atheists are failing because they are just truly terrible at proselytizing, and their target recruitment demographic is very small.

The post completely misses the obvious– Dawkins’ groundbreaking “Letter to Muslima” was the originating fracture point of the faultline between liberal feminists and the Militant (New) Atheists.  Dawkins excoriated both western feminist women and muslim women with same sneering patriarchial paragraph.  Dawkins was the first public intellectual to yoke anti-feminism with anti-Muslim/anti-Islam eumemes, two foundational tropes that run strong in the veins and arteries of the alt-right today.

Dear Muslima,
Stop whining, will you. Yes, yes, I know you had your genitals mutilated with a razor blade, and… yawn… don’t tell me yet again, I know you aren’t allowed to drive a car, and you can’t leave the house without a male relative, and your husband is allowed to beat you, and you’ll be stoned to death if you commit adultery. But stop whining, will you. Think of the suffering your poor American sisters have to put up with. Only this week I heard of one, she calls herself Skep”chick”, and do you know what happened to her? A man in a hotel elevator invited her back to his room for coffee. I am not exaggerating. He really did. He invited her back to his room for coffee. Of course she said no, and of course he didn’t lay a finger on her, but even so… And you, Muslima, think you have misogyny to complain about! For goodness sake grow up, or at least grow a thicker skin.

Dawkins issued a grudging apology three years later, but anti-feminist, anti-Islam rhetoric was an established trope in the New Atheist catechism by then.

Here’s another New Atheist, Razib Khan, trying to convince us that New Atheism isnt dead.

Umm…sorry Razib, but unaffiliated doesn’t mean atheist.

About a quarter of U.S. adults (27%) now say they think of themselves as spiritual but not religious, up 8 percentage points in five years, according to a Pew Research Center survey conducted between April 25 and June 4 of this year. This growth has been broad-based: It has occurred among men and women; whites, blacks and Hispanics; people of many different ages and education levels; and among Republicans and Democrats. For instance, the share of whites who identify as spiritual but not religious has grown by 8 percentage points in the past five years.

The other part of the elephant in the room, which Dawkins and Khan understand very well, although perhaps Scott Alexander and the SSC commentariat do not, is that the pool of potential converts to atheism is quite small.   Age, SES, IQ, educational attainment, and willingness to expend social capital are all qualifiers.  Where Alexander is correct is that the New Atheists are quite dreadful at proselytizing and recruitment.

The New Atheists accomplished the seemingly impossible task of alienating a society that agreed with them about everything. The Baffler-journalists of the world don’t believe in God. They don’t disagree that religion contributes to homophobia, transphobia, and the election of some awful politicians – and these issues have only grown more visible in the decade or so since New Atheism’s apogee.

The commentariat does tease out the idea that Dawkins is a terrible standard bearer– much in the same way Charles Murray is simply a dreadful spokesperson for HBD issues.  But no one acknowledges the core problem– Dawkins just hates women, (and he especially hates women that assert themselves), and then failed to conceal it in a moment of anger or perhaps senile dementia ON THE INTERNET.  His Muslima letter ripped off the concealing bandage and set up the permanent rift between liberal feminism and New Atheism.  Just as Dawkins condescendingly scolds religionists and “unbrights”, he scolded and shamed Rebecca Watson, his one-time natural ally.

This all relates to the larger problem researched in a book I have just finished reading– and my next post will be a review.  Its quite depressing but necessary.

Embracing Apocalypse: Part III

The last panel of the triptych is always the hardest to finish it seems.  In my posts on ISIS Embracing Apocalypse Part I (the Prophetic Methodology) deals with the past, Part II (There is no counternarrative in this frame of spacetime) with the present, and so logically Part III must deal with the future.

Since there is no counternarrative to Islam, and jihad is part of the DNA of the Quran, Grozny-style is the only pragmatic response from America and its puppet regimes, as observed in the wholesale reduction of Kobane, Mosul, Fallujah, Raqqa, Homs, Alleppo, etc. to piles of smoking rubble. Its the same old counterinsurgency model as VietNam, with cities as the new jungles but with effectively zero american conventional ground forces.  Except of course for the stealth force of SOF, which don’t count as boots on the ground.  GWB will be forever blamed for the Iraq war starting America’s slow fall into collapse, but Obama’s grey war is the actual proximate cause, the mechanism that eventually beggers America with no return to value.

The results of his [Obama’s] permanent-war presidency have, in fact, been dismal, according to Special Operations Command. Of eight conflicts waged during the Obama years, according to a 2015 briefing slide from the command’s intelligence directorate, America’s record stands at zero wins, two losses, and six ties.

But that’s grist for a different mill.

ISIS is perfectly prepared to fail, retreat, and emerge in a fresh instantiation.  Its part of the prophetic methodology.  If the Muslims do not unite, they will fail.  Like the excellent Jean-Pierre Filiu says in Apocalypse in Islam

Paradoxically, then, apocalyptic beliefs encourage Muslims to endure the unendurable.

But at the same time, any misfortune that befalls the United States, can be cast as the will of Allah.  ISIS believes the California wildfires, hurricanes Harvey, Irma, Maria from this year’s epic Atlantic basin season, the Vegas shooter, and most of all, the election of Trump are acts of god visited on the USA.   ISIS believes that Trump will destroy the US.  They just may be right.  But a place in prophecy has been prepared for ISIS.

Again, Dr. Atran is the only voice of reasoned scholarship on ISIS.  Incredibly almost no one follows him on line.  The cottage industry jihadologists like McCants and Wood are all frantically scrambling to keep their ISIS meal-ticket on life support (like Callimachi’s obsession with the vegas shooter as claimed by ISIS).  But ISIS fatigue has set in for the American public…they just don’t care anymore.  Obama normalized terrorist attacks as just something the world has to live with now, like TSA presence in airports, just part of the price of rapacious globalized capitalism and American imperialism.

In our research with both combatants and noncombatants, we found that although ISIS has lost control of almost all majority-Sunni territory in Iraq, the group has imbued a generation of young Sunni Arabs with a strict belief in Sharia law as the only way to govern society; and this is a value they are willing to fight and die for. They described strict Sharia as the only way to eliminate oppression and corruption, and many believe that ISIS’s foreign fighters truly fought for this.

By 2050 there will be 1 billion youth in Africa.  Militant Islam in the form of religious socialism may become the dominate paradigm as the only effective way to reject colonialism and imperialism.  In the early 2000’s the world witnessed the startling erosion of American hegemony in the Middle East via the emergence of the Arab Spring– eroded by youth growth populations and internet connectivity.  Alliances of convenience with dictators and tyrants coupled with grey zone SOF deployments has allowed US to maintain its gripping hand at an ever escalating cost of trillions of dollars and increasing “footprints”– and increasing population blowback.   Russia and China are working flank attacks to destabilize the equilibrium of American economic hegemony and the myth of American unity and democracy.  And of course there will be millions more refugees moving north.

What has ISIS learned?  An airforce is now a necessity for insurgencies.  When there is no viable counternarrative to persuade the indigenous muslim population Grozny/Vietnam is the response, even from the US.  There are no international courts for muslims’ rights to self-govern or not be genocided.  Israel is proof of that.  If an islamic insurgency or revolution should acquire nuclear capability, MAD won’t work.  Not with an entity that fervently desires to bring on the endtimes.

Dr. Atran once said this–

If a future islamic insurgency or revolution does acquire nuclear weapons,  they will surely use them.  To embrace the apocalypse.

Frank Herbert’s Dune on the inevitability of prophetic fufillment–

“…he could still sense the green and black Atreides banner waving… somewhere ahead… still see the jihad’s bloody swords and fanatic legions…”

When I used to talk to ISIS soldiers, before that became a prison-time offense, they told me that even if the Ummah was utterly sinful and corrupt, it was the obligation of the mujahideen to protect them anyway.  The mujahideen were the Wali, the guardian/protectors of the Ummah.

Soon muslims will make up 1/4 of the planet’s population, the demographically youngest and fastest growing religion.  I think Dr. Atran is correct, ISIS is a Revolution.   The West’s only hope is to divide the muslims, to turn them against one another.  So far that has been a semi-successful tactic.  But demographics will rule in the endgame– size matters.

I was devastated by the election– typical liberal snowflake.  But in a way Trump’s election validates all my social physics hypotheses– socio-entropic decay, sandpile collapse, chaos, SOC, emergence of adaptive forms, and provides a rich field environment for research and observation.  My favorite paradigm– revolution as sandpile collapse instead of slow-fall.  Perhaps a climate event or a fracking-response super earthquake will be the initial avalanche.  Perhaps it will be a socio-economic event, like say, the collapse of Israel.  8.8 million Israelis oppressing and genociding palestinians in a sea of hundreds of millions of muslims seems like a fragile stasis to me.

As for ISIS, they are not gone.  The promise of Allah has made a space for them because of the prophetic methodology.  The Quran and ahadith are the immutable vectors of memetic transmission.  Even now KSA is spreading its preferred version of Islam in Indonesia.

Meanwhile America is tearing itself apart.  Julian Assange once said that America would become a police state on its way to NLS (Non-linear system) collapse.  Perhaps that is inevitable.

Since I’m a muminah, a believer, I believe in the promise of Allah, da and dawah, the disease and the cure.  Could Islam be the cure for corruption and greed, for rapacious capitalism and American cruel tyranny and exploitation?

But as long as there is Quran, there will be islamic insurgencies like ISIS.  And Quran is uncreated, revealed, and forever.


Men Who Hate Women

A lot of Americans don’t know the real title of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo— it is actually Män som hatar kvinnor, Men who hate women.  This was pointed out to me by a swedish friend, who once sent me a copy of the original paperback.

Steig Larsson refused to let the Swedish publishers change the name, or shrink the size of Lisbeth Salanders tattoo, but many books have their titles changed for American consumption.  Richard Morgan’s Black Man was retitled as Thirteen (because we are racists) and J.K. Rowling’s Harry Potter and the Philospher’s Stone was transmuted to Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone (because we are stupid).

One of the things I learned in my brief sojourn among The Rationalists is there really are a LOT of men who hate women on line.  SSC commenters don’t expend “weirdness points” as much as they expend socio-cultural pariah points.  I was horrified to see “rational” discussion of alt-right talking points like ukranian mail order brides, “white genocide”, and that liberal support of immigration means liberal women want to have sexual congress with virile young muslim males, and by implication, reject white men.  Of course, a lot of this is glossed with a jokey facade, but I think there is a depth of truth in alt-right discourse attacking women– and a quite shocking depth of actual misogyny.   By allowing normalization of extreme toxic ideology rationalist sites like SSC and Less Wrong encourage “treading into alt-right discourse”, as Quillette magazine pointed out.  These are just crazypants red team conspiracy theories.

Sticking in NorCal, it is surprising to see no mention of LessWrong (ed. and SSC) and the “rationalist” semicult, which is a Tumblr-style identitarian support group that nonetheless often ends up treading into alt-right discursive and political territory;

Amazingly, in the rush to decry right/left politics rationalists have have wholly embraced their own particular identity– that of a male ASD-positive hyper-IQ ubermensch.   Scott Alexander does many surveys of his commentariat, and the average SSC commentator is male (90%) and ASD positive (75%).  I was originally drawn to SSC because I thought I could discover conservatives to interact with– I naively hoped to reprise Hoschild’s book about “scaling the empathy wall” with rural Lousiana Tea Party patriots.  The first problem I encountered was there are no conservatives anymore– conservatives have become “cucks”– or vanishingly few that will admit it.  They have changed their names– to “libertarians” or to “classic liberals”.  I dealt with this by just lumping the alt-right, libertarians, tea partiers, and classic liberals on the basis of conservative tendency– basically, you are how you vote.  Its interesting to note the evolution of Mike Enoch from libertarian to hard alt-right.  Another interesting point from that article is that Enoch concealed his real identity “because of his wife”.  Since the doxxing Enoch’s wife has left him and sued for divorce.

Why did he work so hard, for so many years, to keep his normal life separate from his online alt-right persona? “My wife,” he said without hesitation. “For a long time, I wanted to have it both ways, by just being anonymous on the Internet.

My other problem was that the more time I spent around these people the more I genuinely disliked them.  When I was much younger I thought education + IQ == liberal tendency.  I now think there must be a biological basis that drives two different phenotypes– as in red/blue brain hypothesis, since we are well on the way to classic Sewell Wright pseudo-speciation in the US.  And that is the problem.  The coming liberal majority is real for the implacable reasons of differential reproductive fitness and mortality.  Only one tribe is adding reps–converts and offspring– this federalist article on assortative mating is true. 

But I was still astonished by the rampant misogyny.  The rationalists are just more subtle about it à la Googlebro James Damore. I think a lot of the hatred towards women and girls expressed at 4chan and r/the Donald (and the more stealthy variant among the rationalists) originates with something I think of as the Big Bang Theory complex.  The extremely popular sitcom has given young male americans false expectations over the last 10 years.   The idea that male geeks and nerds will wind up married to beautiful Kaley Cuoco types is a fantasy.  As related in the Mike Enoch example above, the alt-right does understand their memes are socio-culturally toxic, especially to women.   It just seems they can’t help themselves.

The whole thing makes me terribly sad.  Lets face it– the “tiki Nazis” arent getting dates anytime soon.  Would you date one of these guys?

Yet the tiki Nazis believe they are wholly deserving of female attention.  PROTIP: this is not the way to get it.

Killing Hitler

So here is Conor Friedersdorf’s taxonomy of violent protest movements.  He starts with his usual profound misunderstanding of islamic movements like ISIS– ISIS is not a protest movement– they don’t have street marches and protests– it is a violent armed insurgency that deliberately uses terror as a long-game strategy in asymmetrical warfighting.  It has nothing to do with Black Lives Matter, Anti-fa, white supremacists, confederate revanchists or neo-Nazis.

ISIS has nothing to do with Naziism either.  Do you know, Conor, what movement is affiliated with Naziism?  The neo-Nazis that marched in the “Unite the Right” parade in Charlottesville.

So I ax Conor on his TL if he would go back in time and kill Hitler, given the opportunity.  No response of course.  It seems to me that if one is willing to go back in time to kill Hitler that is use of violence to achieve a goal.  Because thats what Anti-fa is trying to do.  Kill a Hitler before one emerges by exposing/destroying the potential base of support for fascism.  (ed. note:In these arguments I never want to go back in time to kill Hitler.  I think Hitler was an emergent effect of the spacetime composition of the German citizenry, there were likely many proto-Hitlers in the population, just like there was emergent fascism.  Problematic to eliminate them all.  No, if I get magical time travel powers someday (magical because time-travel to the past is improbable because of closedform timecurves) I would save Alan Turing and bring him to the future.  Because of biology there are infinitely many proto-Hitlers out there but only one Alan Turing.)

That aside Anti-fa is just what their name suggests– against fascists.   Dr. Wang at PEC has a fascism checklist based on this source I think.  Trump has checked quite a few boxes so far.  So if you were trying to prevent fascist ideology from colonizing a permeable sub-population– like low-information red tribe voters and confederate revanchists/white supremacists in the US– what would you be willing to do?  Would you use violence?  Because, violence works.  Just ask Hannah Arendt or Kwame Ture (Howard university philosophy major).

In order for nonviolence to work, your opponent has to have a conscience.

If your opponent is viewed as not human, disposable, and in this hyper-polarized climate this is endemic, violence happens.  The consistent thing about Anti-fa is they are responding to violence, responding to invasion of their space.  The tiki torch parade happened before any Anti-fa showed up, and the polo shirt sporting incels intimidated a small group of female uni students protesting fascism.  That the violence was implied doesnt make it any less real.  The Unite the Right meme is “taking back” their country/cities/turf.  The unis and cities dont want them there.  Neither does anti-fa.

So is defensive violence ok or not?  It seems like Anti-fa is defending their communities against disruptive invasions.  “Unite the Right” discussed using violence in the chat-logs used to plan the march, planned for violence.

If there is ONE THING the divided country should be able to agree on, its that Naziism is BAD.  Fascism is BAD.

Personally i think the GOP needs to grow a spine, and Friedersdorf needs to grow a spine AND a conscience and cut out the bothsidesdoitism and whataboutism that seems so consistant in his opinions.

Conor, try to remember only one side is sporting paired Confederate and Nazi flags.



There Is No Counternarrative

The US profoundly sucks at counterinsurgency (aka “counterterrorism”)…as evidenced by the epic fail of the Viet Nam war, OIF and OEF.  US is so very, very bad at counterinsurgency that it has now resorted to directly outsourcing the counterinsurgent effort to the local most badass tyrant/dictator/strongman/monarch in a profound contradiction of its oft-stated policy of promoting liberty, freedom, and justice for all (pluralist democracy lol), ie propping the local baddie (eg, Assad in Syria, Sisi in Egypt).  But I digress– I’m really here to talk counternarratives.  It would seem like outreach would be a great idea, non? But the US program on CVE (Countering Violent Extremism) has been terminated by the Trump administrationTant pis, because that program could have been directed to outreach to radicalized youth in the alt-right and anti-fa movements non?

Lately there’s a whole rash of articles about “reaching out”, and part of the imperative is the “reaching out to radicalized youth ” where anti-fa is force-equivalenced with white nationalists, incels, channers, neo-Nazis, and the KKK.  I feel like a talking parrot at this point, but both sides are not the same.   Anti-fa are protesting against fascists coming to their town or university— what counternarrative are they offered?  Allow it?

Socio-physics equivalency between ISIS and the Alt-right is being drawn with a heavy-hand as well.  This analysis ignores the widely disparate proximate causes of emergence of ISIS and the Alt-right: ISIS is primarily motivated by brutal western aggression in islamic lands while the Alt-right is basically an internal grievance movement– confederate revanchists, neo-Nazis, incels, channers, white nationalists, HBD proponents, evangelicals, rationalists etc .

First– Dr. Atran– Don’t just Denounce Radicalized Youth. Engage with Them.  Unlike America, his research into youth radicalization hasnt been defunded by the Trump admin.  But he’s still wrong.  Atran is on the record as stating there is no counternarrative to ISIS.  The only counternarrative that would work for ISIS is self-representative government for the islamic world. Why would there be a counternarrative for the Alt-Right?  The Alt-Right wants to capture US culture and redirect it.  Main stream American culture has been rejecting their ideology for decades.  Atran is backed by the US pundit class– We’ll Beat the Fascists with Ideas not Fists, etc.  But how do you engage with sexually frustrated incels and Beta-males?  These guys have already lost the culture war– girls won’t date them.  And adding neo-Nazis, AR-15s  and Confederate flags to the mix will just reduce their dating chances, not improve them.

What counternarrative will get these guys dates?

So, Dr. Atran– what counternarrative can you offer the Alt-right?

No one (except Nagle) will talk about this, but there is a deep and broad current of profound misogyny in the Alt-right.  I think 10 years ago James Damore would have just brought a semi-automatic to work and capped a few of his female  co-workers instead of posting a screed to an internal online group discussing women in tech.  This is probably a good thing, but we need to admit the underlying cause of their disaffection– the Right has been disenfranchised from culture.

I just do not think its possible to construct a counternarrative for the alt-right, any more than it was possible to succeed at CVE for islamic youth.  Dr. Atran is delusional.  Culture has moved on.  The VMAs were like an anti-Trump rally Sunday night.  Pink wore a “Fuck Trump” jacket.  Eminem lead an anti-Trump chant.  Paris Jackson delivered a diatribe on Charlottesville.

“Leave here tonight remembering that we must show these Nazi white supremacist jerks in Charlottesville, and all over the country, that as a nation — with ‘liberty’ as our slogan — we have zero tolerance for their violence, their hatred, and their discrimination,” she urged the crowd. “We must resist.”

Something I learned in Evo Theory of Culture 101– a tribe without reps can’t long survive.  Culture evolves, and moves on.  Arts and Academe are the leading edge of the wave.

The reason Cthulu swims left is entropy — what confederate fan-boiz, neo-Nazis, the Alt-right, the Alt-Light, evangelicals, channers, Proud Boys, Identity Europa, incels, “rationalists”, Donald Trump and the GOP all have in common is a fervent desire for an entropy reset– to return to a past cooler and more ordered state.

Which like futile fantasies of counternarratives simply can’t be done.

UPDATE:  Milo Yiannopoulis is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things.




Trump: the Cronenburg President

Scene from the Phoenix rally in Trump’s America.

I think Donald Trump is a Cronenburg.

Definition: (noun) A twisted mockery of a human being. Distorted beyond all recognition but still retaining enough human qualities to suggest a human origin. Often a result of a horrible virus or malevolent alien entity attempting to create a human race in it’s own sick image.

A deformed pinkish-orange monster.

I flat love Rick and Morty. And my favorite ep of all time is Rick Potion #9, where Rick creates a Morty love potion that turns the world (except for genetic kin of Morty) into first– mantis-people, and then the antidote turns them into Cronenburgs.  You can see the whole ep here.

I just think Trump is so physically repulsive by normative American standards, he MUST be some sort of mutation.  But his true Cronenburg manifestation is his raging mutation of American values.  Racism, tacit support for Nazis, white supremacists and KKK, attacks on the freedom of the press…incredible.

I have always loved cartoons.  I think they are the cultural DNA of America.  Political/cultural commentary and current events are threaded through South Park, Courage, Invader Zim, Squidbillies, Bob’s Burgers, Simpsons, Aqua Teens– but the ultimate best is Rick and Morty.  And now I’m horrified to see my country turning (perhaps as much as) half Cronenburg, lead by the biggest fattest most repulsive Cronenburg of all.

Trump is spreading the virus of hatred and it turns Americans ugly.  We need to get rid of our Cronenburg president before its too late.



So my disastrous (and short-lived) tenure at SSC wasn’t ALL their fault– I charged in there brimming with enthusiasm for my attempt to replicate Arlie Hoschild’s experiment in empathy.  I really should have studied the rationalist community first, I had terrible sampling error and bias.

But my biggest fail is that I wasn’t honest with them.  Consider this exchange.

At this point I was trying to reform my comment style to conform to community standards, so I tried to steelman the argument that O’Keefe was not a trusted source or a journo, but a propagandist.  What I really should have said is, “yes, James O’Keefe IS icky”.  And Donald Trump is icky, Ann Coulter is icky, Charles Murray is icky, Richard Spencer is icky, Heather MacDonald is icky, Milo Yianoppoulis is icky, Kid Rock is icky and Steve Sailor is icky.  These guys are all icky.

What I mean by icky is I have a visceral reaction of revulsion, based on the combined e-history and visuals of these individuals.  I think there has to be a biological component to cause such a strong emotional reaction.   I wonder, do the right rationalists have a comparable visceral reaction to feminists, LGBT, antifa, Obama, Katy Perry, Hillary Clinton, SJWs?  Why are Red Tribe standard bearers so physically unattactive (old, creepy, gross, slimy)?  Does their lack of physical appeal sort incels and channers into the Red Tribe?  Why are all the valorized standard-bearers of the Red Tribe so physically and ideologically unappealing?

I learned a lot at SSC, and I understand myself a lot better.  I get that rationalism, BURGT (Bayesian Utility Rationalist Game Theory) and pure utility theory allow the construction of defenses of any possible human ideology/actions.  But I now think that rationalism is useless without moral theory.  I think philosophy is useless without the public sphere (Arendt).  The perfect exemplar of this would be Donald Trump’s behavior over Charlottesville.  It is rational, given the make-up of his base, but it is amoral, given the make-up of the country.

Nazis are icky.  White supremacists are icky.  And given the amount of SSC comments mirroring Trump’s “both sides do it equally–antifa is even worse” eumeme, there is a lot of support in the rationalist community for Trump’s position.  So this is what Scott Alexander has built– a coven for rational witches.  I heard a lot of argument about the Blue Tribe having equal representation at SSC, but its not equal in volume– liberal tendency commenters pretty much get shouted down– this is what we should expect given conservative tendency traits.

This is a really perceptive article, The Eternal Struggle.  It is one of the two things I read that made me excited about commenting at SSC, the other being UNSONG.  In Struggle Alexander speaks to the cultural evolution that has stranded the Red Tribe outside of traditional institutions and normative standards, and the formation of alternative media bubbles and the burgeoning Red Tribe hatred of academic communities.

Scott Alexander:

“Look. I read Twitter. I know the sorts of complaints people have about this blog. I’m some kind of crypto-conservative, I’m a traitor to liberalism, I’m too quick to sell out under the guise of “compromise”. And I understand the sentiment. I write a lot about how we shouldn’t get our enemies fired lest they try to fire us, how we shouldn’t get our enemies’ campus speakers disinvited lest they try to disinvite ours, how we shouldn’t use deceit and hyperbole to push our policies lest our enemies try to push theirs the same way. And people very reasonably ask – hey, I notice my side kind of controls all of this stuff, the situation is actually asymmetrical, they have no way of retaliating, maybe we should just grind our enemies beneath our boots this one time.”

But what Scott Alexander has done with SSC is just to form another coven.  Its pandering, and I hate pandering. Its disrespectful.  The answer to the disequilibriation of the conservative/liberal Cooperation/Competition Paradigm isn’t to pretend it isnt happening– it is to acknowledge WHY and seek solutions.   Liberals aren’t grinding conservatives beneath our boots– cultural evolution and technological progress are.  When one tribe is gaining reps (replications) and the other isn’t the eventual outcome is pretty certain.

I get the intent of SSC– a place for rational discussion between the two tribes.  But the tribes are no longer persuadable.  SSC has just devolved into rationalizing non-competitive Red Tribe ideology and giving cover to Trump.  The two tribes are diverging– and one side, the demographically and culturally endangered tribe, is moving farther and faster right.  Is the Blue Tribe supposed to move right now?  Because I doubt that will happen.

I tried to talk about asymmetrical polarization at SSC and was pretty much mocked.  I tried to talk about social physics and complexity science and was unsuccessful.  I think Cthulu swims left because of the Second Law.  But SSC commenters would rather not engage with those ideas.  Not sure that plugging your ears with rationalism is an adaptive evolutionary strategy, but watevs.

I wonder if Scott Alexander will say anything about Trump now… not holding my breath.